Hey Aga, my galitzianer ashkenazi father is jp58, clearly this paternal line is found among native levantines if an ashkenazi carried this all the way to Europe.
The Ashkenazi lines under P58 are really local NW Semitic ones (as most AJ lines will turn out to be for that matter), essentially being Canaanite or Aramean of some sort. There are a handful of exceptions, the main one might be L817 where things ought to be a bit more convoluted, as it could have originally been an Akkadian line that made its way to the Levant some time during the MLBA. There's also ZS2121, which is a very good example of an early Arab lineage that probably became entrenched among Jews by the Second Temple Period at the very least (it might be Idumean/Edomite, among other things).
Among Palestinian Arabs, such lines are in the minority.
If Jews went to the moon and made it fertile and flourishing, the Arabs would say they were there first and therefore the Jews should give it back.
Great job, Aga! Looking forward to more!
Mabrouk achi
Someone restacked this today so I just saw it for the first time. Looks like I have some good reading to do. Thanks for all of this!!
Hey Aga, my galitzianer ashkenazi father is jp58, clearly this paternal line is found among native levantines if an ashkenazi carried this all the way to Europe.
The Ashkenazi lines under P58 are really local NW Semitic ones (as most AJ lines will turn out to be for that matter), essentially being Canaanite or Aramean of some sort. There are a handful of exceptions, the main one might be L817 where things ought to be a bit more convoluted, as it could have originally been an Akkadian line that made its way to the Levant some time during the MLBA. There's also ZS2121, which is a very good example of an early Arab lineage that probably became entrenched among Jews by the Second Temple Period at the very least (it might be Idumean/Edomite, among other things).
Among Palestinian Arabs, such lines are in the minority.
What's the "MLBA" - middle to late Bronze Age?
Intelligence is domain specific. Taleb is full of shit on this stuff. He should stick to mathematics and markets.
Awesome.
Question. "Arabs are overwhelmingly of Peninsular Arab descent when one looks at their paternal (and even maternal) lines."
What about the autosomals? Is that where the Canaanite story comes from?
And what the hell happened to the Sea Peoples - the real, original Philistines?